Comments on: My Church Would Be Bigger Than Jesus’ http://www.reformergent.org/2007/10/12/my-church-would-be-bigger-than-jesus/ Version 3.0 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:34:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Jeremy http://www.reformergent.org/2007/10/12/my-church-would-be-bigger-than-jesus/#comment-25 Jeremy Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:23:10 +0000 http://www.reformergent.org/?p=9#comment-25 Francis Chan gave a similar message earlier this year at the Orange Conference, which has many of the same organizers. While I applaud his resolve and convictions, I do think there is room for some of the other stuff in our churches...but where we get it wrong is when the other stuff happens to the exclusion of mission (not missions, but the mission of seeking and saving the lost) any well intentioned means that has that end at heart, can be a good thing...perhaps not the most effective, but at least they gave it the old college try. if the starbucks is going in because the pastor loves coffee, then the idea is kind of stupid...but if said coffee shop brings in people off the street and they encounter Jesus, I have to believe that is a good thing. Churches can be both attractional and missional...it doesn't have to be one or the other. btw. kudos on this blog Chris...and thanks for being a friend. Francis Chan gave a similar message earlier this year at the Orange Conference, which has many of the same organizers.

While I applaud his resolve and convictions, I do think there is room for some of the other stuff in our churches…but where we get it wrong is when the other stuff happens to the exclusion of mission (not missions, but the mission of seeking and saving the lost)

any well intentioned means that has that end at heart, can be a good thing…perhaps not the most effective, but at least they gave it the old college try.

if the starbucks is going in because the pastor loves coffee, then the idea is kind of stupid…but if said coffee shop brings in people off the street and they encounter Jesus, I have to believe that is a good thing.

Churches can be both attractional and missional…it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

btw. kudos on this blog Chris…and thanks for being a friend.

]]> By: Rick http://www.reformergent.org/2007/10/12/my-church-would-be-bigger-than-jesus/#comment-17 Rick Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:38:58 +0000 http://www.reformergent.org/?p=9#comment-17 Considering the organizers and speakers, I respect his boldness is giving that message in that setting. Not that many of those speakers/organizers would support his actions, but it had to be a little uncomfortable. Considering the organizers and speakers, I respect his boldness is giving that message in that setting. Not that many of those speakers/organizers would support his actions, but it had to be a little uncomfortable.

]]> By: johnMark http://www.reformergent.org/2007/10/12/my-church-would-be-bigger-than-jesus/#comment-14 johnMark Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:45:07 +0000 http://www.reformergent.org/?p=9#comment-14 What Chan did was great! And what he said about building a bigger church than Jesus was even better and true. It makes me think of Jesus in John 6 and how he let all the people go away and didn't try to chase them down, etc. I remember listening to a sermon by Matt Chandler where he said that instead of spending thousands of dollars to build a Starbucks cafe in the church he would use the money to reach and help people. Something along those lines. :) Mark What Chan did was great! And what he said about building a bigger church than Jesus was even better and true. It makes me think of Jesus in John 6 and how he let all the people go away and didn’t try to chase them down, etc.

I remember listening to a sermon by Matt Chandler where he said that instead of spending thousands of dollars to build a Starbucks cafe in the church he would use the money to reach and help people. Something along those lines. :)

Mark

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